Comments for Stripermoon Blog with Ken Abrames http://stripermoon.com/blog Just another WordPress weblog Fri, 24 May 2013 07:39:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 Comment on May 4th On trust by Steve http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=109#comment-57 Steve Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:04:43 +0000 http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=109#comment-57 I enjoyed the openness of the story you wrote on trust. I recently started reading a couple of books I read 25yrs ago. They came to me.....by chance? circumstance? Ill try to make this short. But that may be hard. I was going to school and living in NYC attending Parsons School of Design. I was in the Environmental design program their. Before NY and graduating from HS "77 I studied Fine Art. Always struggling with the different mediums,disciplines,techniques. Struggling not with mastering how to use them. But struggling with the thought of ? Did they convey what I was trying to say. I mentioned in a post on the boards a few years back about a Quantum Phycisist David Bohme. For some reason he clicked with me. Though I am awful with math and just cant wrap my head around mathematical equations. The article, was an interview with Bohme (Omni Magazine). As he discussed questions by the interviewer I understood and grasped what he was saying. I thought to myself here is someone who thinks about ideas that I think about everyday. Im not crazy and my thoughts are relevant, to my existence and path in life. After painting,drawing,sculpting,building models,photographing and tearing them up breaking them or burning them because I felt that they did not measure up to what I was trying to say. So I began accepting them for what, where, and why they were. They were because of me. Acceptance of what is. People, society,nature,life. My point about Bohme and his effect on me was, in reflection. If he were to explain what he was trying to say through a series of Equations I would not have been able to begin to grasp it. I dont think that way. But! here was someone who would put together extremely complex theories and equations to answer or explain to himself and other theorists very complex ideas. But he was also able to explain them with his writings and through his discussions in a simple way that made sense to me. Two books Ive started reading last month that I think are really insightful. "The Limits of Thought" "The End of Time"discussions between D. Bohme and Krishnamurti. Very good books. Your story about truth made me think about this .So I thought I would share it. Thanks Steve I enjoyed the openness of the story you wrote on trust. I recently started reading a couple of books I read 25yrs ago. They came to me…..by chance? circumstance? Ill try to make this short. But that may be hard. I was going to school and living in NYC attending Parsons School of Design. I was in the Environmental design program their. Before NY and graduating from HS “77 I studied Fine Art. Always struggling with the different mediums,disciplines,techniques. Struggling not with mastering how to use them. But struggling with the thought of ? Did they convey what I was trying to say. I mentioned in a post on the boards a few years back about a Quantum Phycisist David Bohme. For some reason he clicked with me. Though I am awful with math and just cant wrap my head around mathematical equations. The article, was an interview with Bohme (Omni Magazine). As he discussed questions by the interviewer I understood and grasped what he was saying. I thought to myself here is someone who thinks about ideas that I think about everyday. Im not crazy and my thoughts are relevant, to my existence and path in life. After painting,drawing,sculpting,building models,photographing and tearing them up breaking them or burning them because I felt that they did not measure up to what I was trying to say. So I began accepting them for what, where, and why they were. They were because of me. Acceptance of what is. People, society,nature,life. My point about Bohme and his effect on me was, in reflection. If he were to explain what he was trying to say through a series of Equations I would not have been able to begin to grasp it. I dont think that way. But! here was someone who would put together extremely complex theories and equations to answer or explain to himself and other theorists very complex ideas. But he was also able to explain them with his writings and through his discussions in a simple way that made sense to me. Two books Ive started reading last month that I think are really insightful. “The Limits of Thought” “The End of Time”discussions between D. Bohme and Krishnamurti. Very good books. Your story about truth made me think about this .So I thought I would share it. Thanks Steve

]]> Comment on May 4th On trust by Edward http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=109#comment-56 Edward Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:47:42 +0000 http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=109#comment-56 "...managing mistrust..." "...mistrust ultimately destroys..." This quandary intrigues me. I am a devout fisherman and prefer the solitude of hunting the fish and I also am forced to (as I thought I was) into the solitude of reflection. I have heard this concept by many names and it seems to have taken a life of its own. Some people say trust, others say faith, agreements, assumptions, contracts...etc. I see this concept of trust as a quality of our interations with everything around us. The water and even the fish are relatively absolved from breaking my trust/faith. The sea is a wicked mistress...but if she turns on me...I won't be surprised. If the fish won't cooperate...I'll be upset but these entities are not people. Anthropomorphizing them is just that: ascribing human features onto them. Now take the interactions we have with other people. The trust that we have with our fellow human beings has so much more value. Why? Because they have the capacity to understand how their action/inaction affects other people. Nature doesn't have the capacity to understand our plight. When we get burned...someone knows what happened. Wrap you mind around that. It hurts...whereas if I get washed into a rip by a rouge wave...I can accept it. With all the permutations of different outcomes, there is nothing that is guaranteed to come out perfect for me. So...someone is bound to let me down. It is going to hurt. Keeping others at a distance (mistrusting them) protects from the hurt. It is that simple. Prior to trusting (and therefore excluding all mistrust) maybe you should ask the question: am I prepared to loose ...everything? If there is zero intrinsic value to what is in your life...you will be OK. If not you will eventually come back to some soft line of mistrust. I am not saying ascribing zero intrinsic value to things in this world is bad...they say there was a commercial fisherman in Galilee who did it before...unfortunately he died. In the end, I haven't come to the point where I can do that...for now...mistrust...misanthropy...solitary fishing is there. I will still try. “…managing mistrust…”
“…mistrust ultimately destroys…”

This quandary intrigues me. I am a devout fisherman and prefer the solitude of hunting the fish and I also am forced to (as I thought I was) into the solitude of reflection. I have heard this concept by many names and it seems to have taken a life of its own. Some people say trust, others say faith, agreements, assumptions, contracts…etc.

I see this concept of trust as a quality of our interations with everything around us. The water and even the fish are relatively absolved from breaking my trust/faith. The sea is a wicked mistress…but if she turns on me…I won’t be surprised. If the fish won’t cooperate…I’ll be upset but these entities are not people. Anthropomorphizing them is just that: ascribing human features onto them.

Now take the interactions we have with other people. The trust that we have with our fellow human beings has so much more value. Why? Because they have the capacity to understand how their action/inaction affects other people. Nature doesn’t have the capacity to understand our plight. When we get burned…someone knows what happened. Wrap you mind around that. It hurts…whereas if I get washed into a rip by a rouge wave…I can accept it.

With all the permutations of different outcomes, there is nothing that is guaranteed to come out perfect for me. So…someone is bound to let me down. It is going to hurt. Keeping others at a distance (mistrusting them) protects from the hurt. It is that simple.

Prior to trusting (and therefore excluding all mistrust) maybe you should ask the question: am I prepared to loose …everything? If there is zero intrinsic value to what is in your life…you will be OK. If not you will eventually come back to some soft line of mistrust. I am not saying ascribing zero intrinsic value to things in this world is bad…they say there was a commercial fisherman in Galilee who did it before…unfortunately he died.

In the end, I haven’t come to the point where I can do that…for now…mistrust…misanthropy…solitary fishing is there. I will still try.

]]> Comment on May 4th On trust by Rick http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=109#comment-48 Rick Thu, 07 May 2009 20:17:02 +0000 http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=109#comment-48 Thank you for sharing this. The past few years has brought many challenges to my hopes and aspirations and has shaken my foundation. I haven't made the steps you have taken this past winter, but I appreciate what you wrote. Like you, much of what I "know" and "believe" came from my parents, grandparents, and other relatives. There was something special about the close-knit family relationships of years ago. My father taught me that we don't have "problems", we have "challenges". I think there is much positive in that approach, but, as I have struggled over the past months, they sure as heck look like problems to me. Thanks Ken. Rick Thank you for sharing this. The past few years has brought many challenges to my hopes and aspirations and has shaken my foundation. I haven’t made the steps you have taken this past winter, but I appreciate what you wrote.

Like you, much of what I “know” and “believe” came from my parents, grandparents, and other relatives. There was something special about the close-knit family relationships of years ago. My father taught me that we don’t have “problems”, we have “challenges”. I think there is much positive in that approach, but, as I have struggled over the past months, they sure as heck look like problems to me.

Thanks Ken.

Rick

]]> Comment on April 26th by Armand http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=99#comment-47 Armand Tue, 05 May 2009 19:07:00 +0000 http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=99#comment-47 I read April 27, blog. Made my day, enjoyed sharing the trip with you, back in time. All precious moments, I worry about the kids today, they have nothing to cling to. I normally don't visit your web site but today I was directed, especially to this blog. Thanks Again for sharing. an old fisherman from the past I read April 27, blog. Made my day, enjoyed sharing the trip with you, back in time. All precious moments, I worry about the kids today, they have nothing to cling to.

I normally don’t visit your web site but today I was directed, especially to this blog. Thanks Again for sharing.

an old fisherman from the past

]]> Comment on May 1st by Rick http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=107#comment-46 Rick Sat, 02 May 2009 02:12:00 +0000 http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=107#comment-46 :-) Yes...... that says it. :-)

Yes…… that says it.

]]> Comment on May 1st by denise corn http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=107#comment-45 denise corn Fri, 01 May 2009 22:22:35 +0000 http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=107#comment-45 huh what? he is in our face All The Time, ain't he? but it's different i know trouble is i forget to look into his eyes huh what? he is in our face All The Time, ain’t he?
but it’s different i know
trouble is i forget to look into his eyes

]]> Comment on April 28th by Rick http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=101#comment-44 Rick Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:52:36 +0000 http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=101#comment-44 Ken, Wonderful thoughts and images! I know what you mean. Rick Ken,
Wonderful thoughts and images! I know what you mean.

Rick

]]> Comment on April 26th by John Kelsey http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=99#comment-43 John Kelsey Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:25:23 +0000 http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=99#comment-43 I'm glad you're back. I've missed you. I remember... Mom's Mac and Cheese. Sardine sandwiches with my Dad in the canoe, sitting below the dam on Canberry Lake, fishing for wallyeyes. I got a sunburn.... I’m glad you’re back.
I’ve missed you.

I remember…

Mom’s Mac and Cheese.

Sardine sandwiches with my Dad in the canoe, sitting below the dam on Canberry Lake, fishing for wallyeyes.

I got a sunburn….

]]> Comment on July 31 08 by Giovanna http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=71#comment-40 Giovanna Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:06:26 +0000 http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=71#comment-40 Love the advice. Thank you. Love the advice. Thank you.

]]> Comment on Sept 24th 08 by Cire http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=85#comment-29 Cire Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:24:21 +0000 http://stripermoon.com/blog/?p=85#comment-29 Where are the blog posts? Where are the comments? People are asking and wondering and are becoming alarmed. It seems strange and ominous. Where are the blog posts?

Where are the comments?

People are asking and wondering and are becoming alarmed.

It seems strange and ominous.

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